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Letter from State Senator Gloria T. Tanner & Scott Graves
Letter from Dave Jiles
Letter from Steve Reed
Letter from Michael Coughlin
Here are some more statistics. I cannot cite a source, but it is
probably accurate.
Number of physicians in the U.S..............................700,000
Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year..............120,000
Accidental deaths per physician................................0.171
Number of gun owners in the U.S...........................80,000,000
Number of accidental gun deaths per year (all age groups).....1,500
Accidental deaths per gun owner............................0.0000188
Therefore, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than
guns when accidents are concerned. I think it is noteworthy for the
sake of integrity to comment that the inverse is probably closer to
true when concerned with intentional killings. But that is just
speculation on my part.
Michael Coughlin <[email protected]>
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Letter from Sean
Hello Mr. Taylor,
I recently read a letter in your 'letters to the editors' section
that caught my attention. It was by a young man who was telling a
story about his experience's with the 'selective service'. I would
like to say that I am eighteen years old, almost ninteen and have
never had the misfortuane of being contancted by them. I would like
to state that if they send me a letter ordering or asking (what's the
differenece when it come's to the 'government') me to sign up, I will
refuse. I am quit serious about this and I understand the
consequences, but I don't really care anymore.
The 'government' completely controls and regulates everything in
society, with the possible exception of the internent. There seems to
be no way to get away from them, so I am not going to attempt to. So
let it be written, if ANY 'government' agent comes onto my property
and orders me to do ANYTHING I am going to blow their m-----f---ing
head off. Just thought I'd let you know, by the way, if everybody
that read this, would blow a couple of 'government' agents heads off,
well, I think there might be a few less of em.
Sincerely,
Sean <[email protected]>
By the way I enjoy the TLE, and keep doing a good job. Further if you
want to put this letter in the 'letters to the editors section' go
ahead. And if you want to give it to the FBI, to show that TLE is a
law-abiding orginization, you can do that too. (About that last part,
I don't mean to offend you by that, just trying to state where my
mind set is right now.)
[Note to Sean, et al: I did run this letter as received ... well,
with one (admittedly prudish) editorial modification. I did not give
it to the FBI. This is why I don't 'edit' contributions more heavily.
- ed.]
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Letter from [email protected]
Supreme Court judge Kennedy in the case of US v. Roy Lee Johnson No.
98-1696
There can be little question about the meaning of the word
"release" in the context of imprisonment. It means "[t]o loosen or
destroy the force of; to remove the obligation or effect of; hence
to alleviate or remove; � [t]o let loose again; to set free from
restraint, confinement, or servitude; to set at liberty; to let
go." Webster's New International Dictionary 2103 (2d ed. 1949). As
these definitions illustrate, the ordinary, commonsense meaning of
release is to be freed from confinement. To say respondent was
released while still imprisoned diminishes the concept the word
intends to convey.
The first sentence of �3624(e) supports our construction. A term of
supervised release comes "after imprisonment," once the prisoner is
"released by the Bureau of Prisons to the supervision of a
probation officer." Supervised release does not run while an
individual remains in the custody of the Bureau of Prisons. The
phrase "on the day the person is released," in the second sentence
of �3624(e), suggests a strict temporal interpretation, not some
fictitious or constructive earlier time. The statute does not say
"on the day the person is released or on the earlier day when he
should have been released." Indeed, the third sentence admonishes
that "supervised release does not run during any period in which
the person is imprisoned."
The statute's direction is clear and precise. Release takes place
on the day the prisoner in fact is freed from confinement.
-- http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/98-1696.ZO.html
Imagine if the court were to use the same reasoning in a fourth
amendment case. Perhaps the checkpoint case, Indianapolis v. Edmond.
There can be little question about the meaning of the word "no" in
the context of the fourth amendment. It means "not in any degree or
manner; not at all; not any." As these definitions illustrate, the
ordinary, commonsense meaning of no is a prohibition. To say an
individual is secure against unreasonable seizure, while being
detained without a warrant, diminishes the concept the words intend
to convey.
The first part of the fourth amendment supports our construction.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
shall not be violated." The phrase "no Warrant shall issue," the
second part of the amendment, suggests a strict temporal
interpretation, not some fictitious or constructive double
entendre. The amendment does not say "some Warrants shall issue."
Indeed, the third part admonishes that warrants will only issue
when supported by oath "particularly describing the place to be
searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The amendment's direction is clear and precise. Police may not
infringe upon the rights of the people without a warrant.
The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit is
upheld.
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And just for the sake of argument, Vin is DEAD WRONG in his February
24 article on police roadblocks.
Vin: "The Fourth Amendment supposedly restricts searches to cases
where authorities have 'probable cause' to suspect a specific crime"
No Vin, the fourth amendment doesn't "supposedly" restrict searches.
Johnny Law can search and seize all he wants. As long as he can get a
judge to sign a warrant particularly describing the object(s) of the
investigation. The only time "probable cause" enters the equation is
when the cop has to persuade the judge to sign the warrant. The JUDGE
must be convinced there is a high probability that violating the
individual's right to be secure will yield evidence of a crime.
After the judge takes into consideration the fact the officer is
willing to take an oath or sign an affidavit (under penalty of
perjury), His Honor places the restrictions on the search.
The fourth amendment restricts the issuance of warrants authorizing
search or seizure to those cases where the judge has probable cause
to suspect a specific crime.
The government's ability to protect the citizenry through law
enforcement is not impeded by the amendment. Anything can be searched
and any person or thing may be seized. Which is pretty much the way
things are today. The fourth simply prohibits judges from carrying
firearms for anything *other* than personal protection, and protects
the police from the retaliatory use of force.
P.S. The Johnson case is nothing to get excited about. Mr. Johnson
was convicted of two counts of possession with an intent to
distribute vegetable matter, two counts of use of a firearm in
connection with vegetable trafficking, and on one count of possession
of a firearm by a convicted felon. When two of his convictions were
declared invalid, "he had served too much prison time and was at once
set free, but a term of supervised release was yet to be served on
the remaining convictions."
Johnson tried to have the 2.5 YEARS of extra prison time applied to
his 3 years of supervised release. The supremes said no way.
When it comes to gun-totin', vegetable sellin' Americans who have
been jailed in excess of their sentences, words *do* have meaning.
<[email protected]>
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Letter from State Senator Gloria T. Tanner & Scott Graves
I got this in response to a rather venomous letter I sent to her
healthnaziness. This should give you an idea how these fascists work.
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February 23, 2000
Dear Editor:
With regard to the obesity bill, Senate Bill 34, many people are
under the impression that the Obesity Prevention Act mandates the
state to fund treatment of obesity. The Obesity Prevention Act helps
educate the public to the seriousness of obesity as a disease and
epidemic, and the high cost to taxpayers for treatment of the disease
caused by obesity. It creates a collaborative relationship between
UCHSC Center for Human Nutrition, a world leader in the prevention
and treatment of obesity and the Department of Public Health and
Environment. They would determine the effectiveness of existing
methods, find innovative alternatives and study the fiscal impact of
treating and preventing obesity and the reduction in serious medical
problems associated with diabetes with prevention or treatment.
Again, let me stress, no state funds will be used to carry this out.
The State of Colorado has always been a leader. This bill allows that
tradition to continue by acknowledging that obesity is a serious
disease in our state and that action needs to be taken now.
Currently the federal government, recognizing the importance of an
aggressive public health campaign, is allocating monies to states
that are on the forefront of this epidemic. If Senate Bill 34 had
passed, Colorado would have been in a better position to receive
federal funding.
The citizens of Colorado, however, inadvertently pay for obesity
through the Medicaid system. There is solid, scientific evidence that
individuals with a medical definition of obesity are at increased
risk for type 2 diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure,
impaired glucose tolerance. Eighty percent of all type 2 diabetes is
caused by obesity. Alarmingly, type 2 diabetes, once diagnosed only
in adults, is now on the rise in our children.
Let�s not hide behind the argument that this legislation would punish
obese people. Similar to the tobacco and smoking issue, this bill
would not take away our freedom to choose or tax companies who sell
high caloric foods. We want to inform Coloradans that obesity is a
major threat to our health and quality of lives and help them with
tools to make their lives better and the lives of future generations
better.
Sincerely,
State Senator Gloria T. Tanner
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[Here's Scott's original letter - ed.]
Ms. Tanner, let me be the first, in I what I assure you will be along
list of people, to heap derision and messages filled with hate upon
your pointy head. Your bill, SB00-034 is quite possibly the most
stupid and pointless bit of health nazi crap pilled upon an already
overflowing dung heap of legislation that you and your cohorts have
spewed forth from your ever full cesspool like minds.
I assure you, that as a happily overweight Colorado Resident, you can
pry my cheeseburger from my cold dead fingers. Also I assure you that
if this insanity passes into law by some freak of nature, I will work
to see your pimpled butt removed from its well worn seat and you
replaced with someone who understands the idea of individual liberty.
The almost humorous element to this, Rush Limbaugh jokingly predicted
such legislation many months ago, I guess you liberals really are
that predictable. If an idea is stupid, ill-advised, pointless,
tyrannical or just plain evil, trust some panty waste liberal to turn
it into a law.
You and your kind truly disgust me. Not content with only controlling
your own life, you feel the need to control everyone else's as well.
Such desires should be repressed, much like your desires to molest
children and other socially unacceptable actions.
Scott Graves
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Scott Graves <[email protected]>
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Letter from Dave Jiles
A LIBERTARIAN IS BORN
I'm not sure when it actually clicked, I'd been reading a lot of
material from TLE on the Internet, and had become very interested in
the current battles over the new "common sense gun laws" being
proposed. I've always been kind of a "live and let live" type,
believing that how I felt about other peoples looks or behavior was
my opinion only and that it had no bearing whatsoever on the rest of
the world.
I was rather timid about expressing my views on public policy issues,
content to let the world spin out of control if it wanted. I was what
you may call a "Nerf Libertarian" for many years, basically believing
in most of the L.P. views, but not quite ready to give up Government
control of things to that extent.
I had stopped at the local "Quickie Mart" for a cup of coffee while
traveling between work assignments. My nearly full cup sat in the
cup-holder at the edge of the dashboard as I exited the parking area
of the strip-mall. I drove slowly over two very large speed bumps
causing about 1/3 of my newly purchased coffee to slosh all over the
dash. If these blemishes in the street had been nature caused, it
would have justified a multi-million dollar street repair contract to
the city managers brother-in-law, but they were there on purpose.
They were there to protect us from idiots that don't know enough to
drive at a reasonable speed around pedestrians, without something to
get their attention. The problem is, it also affects the millions of
us that do drive prudently. So I'm thinking , I've got coffee all
over the interior of my truck, because a few boneheads can't drive,
and it really pisses me off. My God, I must be a Libertarian!
Forgive me Father Neil, for I have sinned. As recently as three weeks
prior, I had been thinking in favor of at least some of the
afore-mentioned "common sense gun laws". After all, how could we gun
owners oppose something like "safe storage"? But then I thought, I
dont oppose safe storage, I oppose big brother defining it.
I have three kids, all at or near adulthood. They were raised in a
home with several firearms, no accidents, no school massacres,
nothing. I also didn't let them play with our cars, power tools, farm
equipment, or any other object until they were old enough and
informed enough to handle them responsibly. The point is, we raised
our kids, we didn't let them grow like noxious weeds and expect them
to someday magically become mature, responsible, thinking adults. And
it didn't require the Government "Village" to do it.
Recently I joined forces with Rocky Mtn. Gun Owners, and Gun Owners
of America. I have officially changed my voter registration to
Libertarian. I will no longer support any politician that proposes,
supports, or even tolerates any form of government "nanyism". I don't
want the Government to provide my health care, I just want them out
of my pocket so I can afford to provide it myself. The drug war is a
waste of time and money, and the Government is doing a piss poor job
of protecting us from the criminal element, we need to do it
ourselves. I will consider our "public servants" just that, servants
and employees that are there to do a specific job, no more, no less.
They can be sacked.
I have made a new years resolution that each month I will write at
least one letter to the editor, soapbox commentary, or raise hell
with one politician via mail or e-mail. So far I'm having so much fun
at it, this may be one resolution I not only keep but surpass. The
world of twedle dee and twedle dumb, has lost another soul, I'm no
longer a Republican or a Democrat, working for the status quo, and I
will oppose them, and cause them grief and embarrassment at every
opportunity.
I will be a constant reminder that they are not in charge, we are. I
will not tolerate some twit like Diana DeGette, telling me I'm too
irresponsible and incompetent to own and carry firearms thirty years
after the same Mafia she represents dropped me in Southeast Asia with
a fully automatic "assault rifle" at the ripe old age of 19. I
believe it is time to not only stop supporting politicians that
violate their oath of office, but calling for their prosecution and
removal.
So, where do I go to sign up? Get me a uniform and send me on a
mission, I'm ready.
[email protected]
Dave Jiles
PO Box 105
Drake CO 80515
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Letter from Steve Reed
The 29 February issue of "TLE" was indeed one of the few occasions
to, er, Leap (this) Year out of pleasure, with El Neil returning to
its virtual pages.
I had found myself swept up in the fervor about LNS running for
president -- note that I didn't say "getting a bunch of his friends
to persuade him," but "running," which misapprehension grew despite
his efforts -- for about five days last Summer.
After which, I got het up about people who were dumping publicly
viewable obscenities into the on-line petition. Neil himself was kind
enough to personally calm me down about my Net-expressed angst on
this topic. After his e-mails, however, I lost the fever quite
quickly, and came to the conclusion that made sense:
It would be better to have Neil getting more prose into print, and
confounding categories with such disturbances of the peace as "The
Mitzvah," than to take any of this politicking seriously. Besides, if
any LP entity had ever managed a million signatures, we'd have
devolved the U.S. military into local militias by now. So the
petition prognosis, cleaned up or not, was poor.
I'm pleased to see that Neil has gotten back to writing. Yet I also
was thrown for a loop, or mildly puzzled, by a few items in his opus
on that very topic.
* I just placed my order for "Forge of the Elders." Why hasn't any
publicity from Baen been in view that talks about the -suppression-
of the original Part 3? Is it that attitude lawyers extend to killer
sharks, professional courtesy? (In this case, toward the earlier
publisher?)
* Is "The American Zone" set in the Solar Confederacy? Does poor
Clarissa Olson-Bear finally get some help with Koman's
Mitochondriasis?
* We've adored Neil on line in his red (definitely not Red) shirt,
but what about getting to see HIS TALENTED DAUGHTER in her SEQUINS?
* Neil alluded to "Captain Bringdown (who also knows who he is) -- a
middle-aged adolescent who made one Great Leap in his lifetime," etc.
I am hopelessly out of date with LP gossip mongering -- settling a
parental estate and moving will do that to you -- and thus have no
idea who he's talking about. Enlightenment is warmly welcomed.
* Similarly, quoth LNS, "they're ready to switch to a dweeb who wants
the party to stop talking about ending the War on Drugs." Who is
that? I did manage to catch the LP prez hopefuls' debate at the
California convention, on C-SPAN -- 2 a.m., natch -- and didn't get
any such vibrations. Not that it hasn't been discussed! (And
vigorously dismissed, within my earshot.)
* If Neil has "a cheap, simple way to eliminate air pollution with
infrastructure already in place, without taking anyone's property
away," or knows "how to get ordinary people into space to stay," why
is he going to tell US, instead of venture capitalists? And WHEN will
he tell us?????
Any and all notes to these effects would be fervently appreciated.
Either in e-mail or in LNS's published comments.
Vin's piece on the Second Amendment is the usual stellar compilation
of hidden facts and incisive commentary, but I must proffer one
historical correction.
Vin wrote of Hitler facing the dilemma of being able to "secretly arm
either Rohm's SA or the Wehrmacht's SS, but not both" and, thus,
purging the SA. The Schutzstaffel (Protective Echelon) began as
Hitler's bodyguard, was turned into an "Aryan" eugenic-loyalist
test-bed, and in both cases was part of the National Socialist party
structure. Some of the Wehrmacht (Army) units were placed under the
command of SS cadres, to make them more pliable in carrying out
Hitler's delusions of military planning ability. But the genuine Army
leadership was more than minimally resistant to Hitler's leadership,
on many occasions before and during the war. It came close to
deposing him at the time of the Munich Pact, but the West made a
forced invasion unnecessary, and thus took the wind out of the Army's
resistance.
A small thing, but a matter of my own study. I applaud Vin for
showing such patience with a pissant gun-grabbing correspondent.
Steve Reed
<[email protected]>
Signer 31 on the Talk Neil Into It petition
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